tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post4027947774129849464..comments2023-10-03T07:42:20.169-07:00Comments on Tom Bacchus on the Vine: Censoring Facts: Fratmen Flip outTom Bacchushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02380583002280667260noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-21096502276440837862008-08-29T18:42:00.000-07:002008-08-29T18:42:00.000-07:00"I don't even who know Jeff Gannon or Matt Sanchez..."I don't even who know Jeff Gannon or Matt Sanchez are."<BR/><BR/>Which proves your level of understanding of the topic.Tom Bacchushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380583002280667260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-44253088739362084322008-08-27T18:37:00.000-07:002008-08-27T18:37:00.000-07:00Again your accusations come totally out of the blu...Again your accusations come totally out of the blue and have absolutely no merit. I don't even who know Jeff Gannon or Matt Sanchez are. But if they were models on a porn site who had their real names thrown all over your blog along with their school photos, then yes, I would certainly defend them. In related news, your next comment to me will most likely blame me for Global Warming, while you still deny that you gleefully exposed two seemingly nice kids who made one slip of bad judgment. This conversation, along with your bog, are both officially boring me to tears so I shall not return.TThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10706231574357235950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-89664248280654318922008-08-25T12:26:00.000-07:002008-08-25T12:26:00.000-07:00Oh, get over your smug self.I didn't "out" anyone,...Oh, get over your smug self.<BR/><BR/>I didn't "out" anyone, you idiot. It was already done by some bitter queen in Nebraska, or quite possibly, at the hands of Fratmen themselves to get $$ and web hits.<BR/><BR/>did you ever think of that?<BR/><BR/>Further, the deleted previous post was only put up by me AFTER it had hit Associated Press, and a dozen other straight mainstream web news sites.<BR/><BR/>Further, the nude pics, as listed, are STILL on more than a dozen blogs, which have a financial gain to make from continuing to link to Fratmetn.<BR/><BR/>I gain nothing from this; if there's any "glee," it's in exposing the blatant hypocrisy of Marsh and Fratmen, and mewling queens like you who defend a porn site purely aimed at making money, and attack a free blog that comments on what is ALREADY news.<BR/><BR/>It's people like you who defend hypocrites like Jeff Gannon, Matt Sanchez, and Republican porn and hook-up site owners, then point a scolding finger at those who dare criticize them.<BR/><BR/>Go find some "innocent" porn to clutch your pearls over.Tom Bacchushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380583002280667260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-43647224704651643272008-08-24T16:12:00.000-07:002008-08-24T16:12:00.000-07:00Actually I am not a closet case. I'm quite open an...Actually I am not a closet case. I'm quite open and proud of my sexuality. And I'm not here on the dictate of a website. I'm not a member of their site but I read your blog was disgusted by the glee you displayed in throwing those two kids out to dry. You blame the owner of the website for not warning them of the consequences of posing for him, yet you had no problem outing them, publishing their real names, and posting photos of them. What's the difference between you and the site owner? Oh yes: he paid them. You simply aired their dirty laundry and blamed everyone else for what you did. Now you can blame the site owner, you can blame anyone who disagrees with you, and you can blame anyone else that you want - the bottom line is that you knew the possible hurt and pain you would cause by publishing those young men's information - and you chose to do it. So live with it, move on, and quit blaming everyone else for what you contributed to.TThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10706231574357235950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-35784579842174690412008-08-23T07:22:00.000-07:002008-08-23T07:22:00.000-07:00TB I totally agree with you. They are whoremonger...TB I totally agree with you. They are whoremongers plain and simple. Unfortunately these two are the only ones that Fr----d has sleazed up and exploited. There are few others that have tried to move on but can't go far due to their Fr----d history. Sure ultimately it's the fault of the "models" but the site owners seem to prey on the young and naive.Agent Tangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10214687880985972967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-13466906299778296982008-08-21T21:58:00.000-07:002008-08-21T21:58:00.000-07:00Which is more pathetic, a couple of anonymous porn...Which is more pathetic, a couple of anonymous porn purveyors playing moral police, or defending a porn maker who never tells two young guys about the possible negative results of being in porn?<BR/><BR/>You're both asshole closet cases and pathetic John Marsh sycophants. you both came here specifically via Fratmen's dictate; rope 'em in, get 'em on tape, and then dump 'em.<BR/><BR/>Marsh's false concern for the guys was over nothing but his own profits.Tom Bacchushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380583002280667260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-40130392593842569182008-08-17T14:13:00.000-07:002008-08-17T14:13:00.000-07:00I second the above post. You're an asshole, Mr. Ba...I second the above post. You're an asshole, Mr. Bacchus.Prof. FigoFanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02963186201840901730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-13230271647202736352008-08-16T18:53:00.000-07:002008-08-16T18:53:00.000-07:00Which is more sad: that these kids had the rug pul...Which is more sad: that these kids had the rug pulled out from under them for doing a video (which seems to be more tame than the likes of Paris Hilton, MiniMe, and other celeb sex tapes) or that these kids had the rug pulled out from under them by the gay community -including this very blog. Talk about biting the hand that feeds it... When all the hot guys hear about this and stop posing for pics & making videos and we're left to look at ugly guys, ask yourself "Did I contribute to this?"TThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10706231574357235950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-67338973134768148022008-08-14T16:14:00.000-07:002008-08-14T16:14:00.000-07:00re: Queerclick - They censor comments as well. If...re: Queerclick - They censor comments as well. If the owner doesn't agree with your comments, he'll just not post them. So, anything critical to their affiliate masters is usually not seen.Christopher Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03661631747760399802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-69856353947123534862008-08-13T09:21:00.000-07:002008-08-13T09:21:00.000-07:00It's especially repulsive that they've dismissed t...It's especially repulsive that they've dismissed them from the team for this, like it's some sort of horrible, evil thing. Yes, don't stand by the people who have made your team succeed; make comments that insult them and their ability, as well as who they are as people. Typical, really.<BR/><BR/>It's not surprising though, considering it's cornpone territory. If it had been a female athlete they probably would've let it blow over and just left her on, or if it had been some sort of hetero sex scandal, naturally it would've been downplayed.<BR/><BR/>They were just looking for a reason to take them off the team; there's really no legitimate excuse for them doing it. All it boils down to is them being insecure about someone on their team posing nude (gasp and shock!) for a site that caters to gay men.<BR/><BR/>Pathetic, in this day and age, but typical as well.Hushichohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13116519201334245992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-13363493125425604762008-08-12T14:07:00.000-07:002008-08-12T14:07:00.000-07:00While it was a stupid mistake on behalf of the mod...While it was a stupid mistake on behalf of the models, knowing that they are in the public eye -- at least in Nebraska. The dozens of reality stars that were outed for their "modeling."<BR/><BR/>That being said, the website is probably raking in the dough from this. It's obvious that the owner is pumping this up by doing press interviews always mentioning the website name. He could have said, no comment and hung up. <BR/><BR/>I noticed that the website blocked the free preview of Nash and Cal, so you have to buy a membership to see the model's goods. This is probably the motivation for trying to get all the adult images removed from the internet. <BR/><BR/>If he had taken down their pictures and videos from his website when this started (note Active Duty blocked new memberships when their scandal came out), I would have bought into his faux concern for his models.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure those guys didn't actively seek out adult modeling, but were actively courted. Some money, a free trip to Los Angeles, defining it as modeling, a promise that no one will ever find out, reassuring that it doesn't make you gay to masterbate for a gay site and some sly talking probably convinced them that this would be worth it.Christopher Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03661631747760399802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4128528.post-83883895285183908552008-08-12T09:57:00.000-07:002008-08-12T09:57:00.000-07:00You know, it seems to be that not only are the fra...You know, it seems to be that not only are the fratmen idiots being ridiculous about this (it's really their fault in the first place) but so is the school, and that gossip rag reporting it is the chiefest one of all to blame. Why is it that in this country, everyone seems to think that everyone else's business is their business?<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately it isn't just in the US, but it seems more prevalent here than most. Of course, one does wonder if they would've made any such fuss if these pictures had appeared on, say, a personal blog or site rather than a gay-related one. Suddenly it's news to them, because it's controversial since they want to stir up dirt, and questioning people's sexual orientation is always something they can do for that. It's kept the Enquirer and the Star, Globe and so forth running for decades.<BR/><BR/>I completely agree with you; this is just reporting news, and fratmen (amusingly I just typoed that 'fartmen' and had to correct myself) really have no ground to stand on if they're trying to stir up trouble here. It's a bit late for them to suddenly show crocodile sympathies at what their site has, directly or indirectly, done.<BR/><BR/>Personally I find it all rather repulsive. So because they're athletes, suddenly they're not allowed to be artistic models? Pornographic or not, that's still model work. It's not really selling their images or their 'celebrity' status, since their real names were not used if I recall. Why is there a problem? Why is this any different than them simply modelling for any photographer? I don't think the school has the right to restrict that.<BR/><BR/>Of course these questions will not be raised at all in their enquiry, which will undoubtedly just be token and make this out to be some sort of horrifically shameful thing that is somehow twisted to either be his fault or the fault of homosexuals -- I have no doubt that they'll try to put some kind of spin on it like that. I long for the day when some pathetic gossipmonger digs up some nudes that a fellow modelled for and the world responds with 'so what!'Hushichohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13116519201334245992noreply@blogger.com